PI Freelancers vs Bargirls | Prices, Pros & Cons
If you read up on the Pinay bargirl scene you will read many different opposing views. Some guys will say that you should never go with a freelance prostitute because she is more likely to have a disease or to try and scam you (I’ve never really had a problem).
There are many different stories of scams but how often do they really happen? Or is it just a few isolated incidents that get told over and over again? And how much safer is a bar girl when it comes to disease?
Pinay Bar Girls
In most major cities in the Philippines there will be some ‘bikini bars’ where there will be sexy Pinays in bikinis (hence the name) that will sit and entertain the guests.
You can buy them some overpriced ‘ladies drinks’ to get them to sit with you and at some you can pay a barfine which will allow you to bring the girl home with you. Depending on where you are the barfine might be anywhere from 1000 – 4000 pesos and then you will be expected to give a tip on top of that.
A 500 tip is usually pretty well accepted, unless you are somewhere like Burgos Street where they will want a whole lot more. The advantages of getting a bargirl are that it is quite simple. You go into the bar, you see her in a bikini so know what she has to offer, and you chat with her and get to gauge her personality.
There is a bit of security by going this route because if the girl doesn’t live up to her end of the bargain you can go back and complain and get your money back. They also get health checks fairly often, but knowing how weak the medical care is here they probably don’t amount to much. Still it lowers your chance of taking a girl with something obvious like herpes or warts.
Pinay freelancers (girls not working for any bar at the time) are a bit trickier but it’s still easy. You can meet them basically anywhere but the most common place would be discos, on the street or in random bars.
If you are in Angeles City you can go to High Society disco and it will be packed with Pinay freelancers. Same with J-Ave in Cebu City or Cafe Havana and LA Cafe in Manila. Many Pinay freelancers in the discos are also Pinay bargirls after their shift is over (so you don’t need to pay a barfine).
You can also find Pinay freelancers on dating sites (more so on free sites like Pinalove than paid sites like FilipinoCupid), at the malls, or wherever you go. This is why it is always important to kindly ask any girl you meet if she wants money so that you both know the deal.
Pinay freelancers are usually not the same as the working girls we come to expect in the western world. If a girl in the US ends up as a hooker she probably had a drug problem or was just lazy. That is not always the case, some girls are just pretty and are fine selling their bodies and can handle being a pro, but for the most part western world hookers have some problems.
In Asia that isn’t the case. If you had the choice between work really hard to get a college education so that you can get a job at Jolibee and make $200 a month or go to bars and pick and choose the guys you want to go with and make double or triple that which would you choose?
Don’t get me wrong there are definitely some Pinay freelancers that should be avoided, but they are usually quite easy to spot. There is a bit more of a risk going with any Pinay freelancer, but with all the recent raids in bars in Angeles City and other places you probably have just as high of a chance at running into the cops there as you do with a Pinay freelancer.
Some might argue that since freelancers have an element of choice in who they go with (e.g. hot young ones that only work in discos, never bars) they may be less likely to have STDs than bargirls that get barfined every day by anyone who walks in. Then again the cheaper street girls may be going with guys even more than bargirls – you just have to make a judgement call.
Bargirls vs Freelancers
It’s really hard to put an exact dollar figure on how much you will save by going with a freelancer because not all freelancers charge the same price, and not all bars charge the same price. I think its pretty fair to say that the average price of a Pinay freelancer is 1000 pesos, and the average price for a Pinay bar girl is 2500-3000. Lets just call the savings per hook up $40 for simplicity’s sake.
If you take a 3 week vacation to Angeles City and will get a girl 15 of the 21 nights you will save $600. That is quite a bit of your budget for a trip and will have you back in Angeles City much quicker. And the math adds up even more if you live here.
Lets say through the course of a year you want to have a girl over a little less then every other day, so 150 times. That is $6000 a year! That’s more then half of my yearly budget. Now there are lots of guys on forums that want to convince you that going with a freelancer leaves you open to a scam from the police. This does not happen 1% of the time, but again for simplicity’s sake lets say that it does.
And let’s even say that the scam you have to pay is $1000, even though in reality as long as you aren’t actually caught with an under age girl the scam will be much less then that. But just to weight everything in the favor of the guys the opposing view lets give them the benefit of the doubt on everything.
So if for every 100 times you go with a freelancer you save $40 that’s $4000 in profit. But you have to subtract $1000 for the 1 in 100 scam. You are still up $3000.
Then if we are being realistic and call the freelancer scams the 1 in 1000 or 1 in 10000 events that they are and you can pay off the first cop on the scene (that set the scam up and wants your money) a couple hundred dollars and you can see how much the savings is.
And don’t think that Pinay freelancers are the only underage girls ‘working’ in the Philippines. There are many Pinay bar girls that are under age as well. One of the more popular girls in Angeles City has a big thread on one of the main forums related to this topic.
In the thread someone posted that she was just celebrating her 18th birthday in 2014. Yet she had been working in bars since 2012. Under age girls are the main way a foreigner can get locked up and are the thing I am most paranoid about. You need to be careful with any girl you go with no matter where you meet her.