And I Thought Filipinos Were Rude | Thais Are Worse
In the past I wrote a post about how rude Filipinos can be. But it is more of a rudeness by ignorance than rudeness by malice. With Thai people there is a whole different level of rudeness.
Thai people suck
To be fair I do think Thai people are a little better about the lack of self awareness type things that are annoying about Filipinos. They may stop in a crowded walkway from time to time, or try and get on an elevator before people get off, but it doesn’t seem to happen near as often as in the Philippines.
Examples of Rude Thais
But Thais are rude in other ways, and I’ll take the goofy Filipino rudeness over the Thailand style any day. Lots of people want to write off Thai rudeness as being all because of the language barrier. That can account for some of it, but not all.
I get in more confrontations in Thailand a month then I do in a year in the Philippines. I am a very unconfrontational person and try to avoid them at all costs. Filipinos are the same. Thais….. not so much.
Of course in Pattaya when they were trying some of their scammy or rip off things that I detailed here that would lead to many of them. But there were other situations that got blown out of hand for no reason. Here is the best example.
Confrontational Reception Lady
I was checking into a place in Bangkok that had serviced apartments on AirBnb and they clean the rooms every day. I ask the lady at the front desk (who I could already tell was a no-nonsense type of person) if I can have them not come in my room every day.
I am a big boy and can keep my room clean enough on my own. I don’t need maids in my room 6 days a week. She says that they can come in twice a week to clean and change the sheets, I ask for once a week and she says ‘impossible.’
Why is this impossible? I am the customer, I am trying to offer them the chance to do less work, and for some reason this is ‘impossible.’ I protest and she will not budge. In the Philippines this would be met with a yes sir and would have been done after I asked the first time.
Fast forward 2 days later. I have just had a really fucked up 2 days where I switched around my sleep schedule and stayed up an extra 12 hours to do so. I don’t do well with no sleep and am like a zombie.
They are supposed to come in every Tuesday and Friday to change the sheets and clean. This is a Wednesday and when I get back my patio door is wide open and I can tell my room has been cleaned.
I am not really sure why they came in but I also want to avoid talking to ‘impossible’ as much as I can so I let it slide. But the back door being left open pisses me off because I killed three mosquitoes over the next 2 days. I am uber paranoid about dengue and malaria.
The next day I wake up and plan on having some ham and cheese croissants for breakfast. I get the ham and cheese out of the fridge and go to grab the croissants off the microwave….. they are gone.
They were tied up in a grocery bag to not go stale. I look all around and they are nowhere. I remember how the maids had been in my room and the only thing I can think of is that they threw them out.
I decide I really can’t have these maids in my room this often messing with my stuff and letting mosquitoes in. I go down to talk to the crazy lady at the front desk and do my best to keep things calm. That lasts all of 20 seconds.
I smile, speak quietly, and try to explain how I would prefer the maids not come in my room anymore. She is saying they have to come. I remind her that she said they would only come Tuesday and Friday and point out how the day before was Wednesday.
She asks what happened and I hesitate……. but I think that without saying what happened I will never get what they want. So I say that the back door was left open and that something small that wasn’t a big deal may have got thrown out.
She instantly picks up the phone and calls the maid. 30 seconds later front desk lady and the maid are talking in Thai. More like yelling. Crazy lady keeps saying impossible impossible, the maid is saying no…… shit has spiraled out of control as crazy front desk lady is escalating and escalating.
Eventually I get what I want. They agree to only come in once a week. Later that day I realized that I ate the croissant during my 12 hours of staying up :).
So ya, I am kind of to blame here hehehe, but in the Philippines there is no way that this ends in a shouting match. It would be yes sir, sorry sir, no problem sir.
Here it was arguing, fighting, yelling. Calling in the maid to make her lose face in front of me. Just a completely different culture as far as confrontations go.
Don’t Speak Unless Totally Necessary
If you are trying to get anything accomplished in Thailand you need to say as few words as possible and let the people do what they do.
They don’t really have any interest in hearing what you have to say anyways and your talking will only go to mess things up. They are going to do what they want to do regardless of what you say.
This is true to an extent in the Philippines as well, but again in a less rude way. I remember months ago I was eating at Ayala Mall when a pasta place was having a buffet.
I ate it 3 times in a couple weeks and the last time they had some really good pesto bow tie pasta that hadn’t been there the other two times. When I went to load up another plate the manager was standing nearby and I told him it was good.
He said yes sir and rushed away, I don’t think he even listened to a word I said and it was totally pointless for me to say it (which I knew beforehand.) Well in Thailand this is how it always is.
Just say the bare minimum to get the job done and go on with your day. Don’t make small talk, and don’t crack silly jokes that they won’t understand.
But Silly Jokes Are My Whole Game!
Ya this part really hurts me and it took me quite awhile to adapt. As I have written numerous times on this blog the way to deal with sexy Filipinas is to keep the mood light, be a silly joker, and act like a kid.
This just confuses a majority of the girls in Thailand and doesn’t seem to help you out much. It seems like they would prefer to just have boring ‘did you take your dinner yet?’ conversations day after day instead of being fun and playful like Pinays.
This one I will kind of write off as a language barrier thing, and when I was in Bangkok and texting with some girls there that spoke better English they were more down with the jokes.
Even the note that I hand to girls is a bit silly but it presses the right buttons with Pinays and gets them to smile and be happy when they read it. Well it didn’t play well in Pattaya.
I handed out maybe 10 of them (all to hookers except for one girl working at 7-11 next to LK Metro who probably gets hit on often) and none of them texted me.
One night when I had first gotten there I was going to pick up some food and noticed this cute girl with her friends eating at an outdoor small Thai resto.
I picked up my meal and gave her my number on the walk back by even though it was an awful approach spot, I had to hand her my number through a chain fence lol.
When I approached I realized she wasn’t as hot as I had previously thought but I had already started talking with her. Her and her friends seemed pretty receptive and things were left on what I felt were good terms.
Later that night there she is at iBar. She smiles and I go over and say hi. She reaches in her purse, pulls out the note, and throws it at me.
I miss Pinays :(.
Another Run In With Rude Front Desk Lady
While I stayed at that apartment I mentioned before I did my best to avoid the crazy lady at the front desk. I always walked around the side exit to avoid having to talk to her.
Well the internet at this place was pretty shoddy and a few times I had to call down to the front office and ask her to reset the modem. Public and shared wifi generally sucks in Asia, and while this one reached good speed when it was working it lacked in consistency.
I had to do this 3 times in a month, and would have done it more if I didn’t have the 4g from my phone to tether off of. Well on my last day I was out of load for my phone but had no choice but to call down.
Crazy lady asks who is calling, I tell her who, and she says the wifi is fine. Hmm well not for me so please reset it. She says she will send her staff and hangs up.
10 minutes later there is a knock on my door and some guy who works there wants to come in and use my computer to see if it really isn’t working? Lolwut? I tell him nevermind and deal with the slow shitty wifi.
I go out to get some food a few hours later and as I go around the side exit I notice her peering out the window at me. When I get to the street she is there.
She tells me that she sent someone to my room to check on the wifi but I wouldn’t let him in. I confirm that happened (I know cuz I was there) and say its OK if they want to check they can do it the next day when I am gone.
Her reply: We won’t because we know there is no problem. I say OK and walk back inside.
This lady is like consistently the worst at customer service that I may have ever dealt with. She watches for me to leave to come pick a fight with me. Psycho.
So I wrote the above post on my last night in BKK. When I woke up I quickly had to check out and head to the airport. I threw all of my life’s possessions in my bag but the only thing I couldn’t bring with me was the fan I bought a month earlier.
When I left the place I stayed at in Angeles I left the fan with the hotel staff and said they can use until I come back, if I come back, but if it is still there I would use it again. They said thank you and were happy to have an extra fan around the place for many months, and to get the ‘if I don’t come back’ freeroll.
In Cebu I left both a fan and an electric stove, once again with no problems or rudeness at all. Crazy lady don’t play like that though.
I told her there was a chance I would return in a month and asked if she could keep my fan there in the office and use it, and then if I came back I would use it for a month and then they could keep it.
‘If you give me fan I give away you no get back.’ I realize there is aircon in the office and they aren’t using fans, so I say what if you leave in the laundry room and for the maids.
‘No if you give you not get back, you can give but no get back.’ I reply with ‘OK nevermind I will go find someone kind to give it to and that is how I end things with crazy lady.
I walk past a laundry shop and give them the fan, not sure they understood my whole ‘maybe I come back in a month thing’ but I think they did. At least that uberbitch didn’t get it.
Is it just me that thinks Thai people are rude? Let me know your experiences with rude Thais in the comments.